Installing Dusk to Dawn Photocell in Exterior Lighting to Save Power

April 12, 2008

light1 Installing Dusk to Dawn Photocell in Exterior Lighting to Save PowerProject: Add photocell (dawn to dusk switch) to existing outdoor fixture.
Difficulty: Easy
Time: 30 minutes
Benefits: Eco Friendly, power saver, time saver, esthetically appealing
Cost: $5 – 10 depending on you collection of tools.

Today’s Watthack covers adding a photo cell to a patio light.  This light is on our front porch and we typically turn it on when we get home, and turn it off in the morning.  That’s just our routine so we don’t forget, but this wastes power as the days get longer.  While visiting my big box home center, I picked up a photocell that will mount into the light fixture we have.  It’s made as a replacement for Hampton Bay lights with photocells installed, but it’s simple enough to wire into just about any light.  And, with a price of 5 – 6 dollars, it’s about half the price of other thread-in photocells.

For this project you will need:

  • Access to the breakers so you can shut the circuit off
  • A phillips and flat screwdriver
  • 1 small wire nut
  • 1 photocell
  • A drill bit in the size that’s specified for the photocell you choose
  • A drill of some sort.
  • You may also want to have wire strippers handy.
  • Utility knife

light7 Installing Dusk to Dawn Photocell in Exterior Lighting to Save PowerLet’s get started

First let me start off by saying that I’ve tried a few of the screw-in photocells. They are typically more expensive ($10 – $12,) don’t last as long, and generally look like crap when installed in any light with a clear glass globe like ours. Thread in photocells are easy to install, but we get to use power tools with this version; a definite bonus.

The project starts by disconnecting power to the lighting circuit.  If it’s a switched circuit, you could just turn off the switch, but if anyone else is home, you are asking for shock treatment.  Be safe and take the time to kill power to the whole circuit.

Next, we remove the light fixture by unscrewing the two retaining nuts on either side of the light base.  Your fixture will vary, so take your time and locate the hardware you need to remove.  Also, if your trusty painter caulked and painted around the light fixture, you may want light4 Installing Dusk to Dawn Photocell in Exterior Lighting to Save Powerto locate a utility knife and score the paint between the wall and fixture.  This will prevent you from needing to repaint.

Our house was built in 1938, so our wiring is pretty simple.  One neutral (white) wire, and one power or hot wire (black.)  You may have another wire that is either copper or green which is considered the Ground wire.  Disconnect all the wires and pull the fight fixture down.  You should have matching colors on your light fixture.  If not, take a minute to label each wire so you remember how it goes back together.

Remove any glass that might fall out or get broken while you drill your hole.  Also take a look inside your housing and at any bracket that is attached to the electrical box to determine the best location for the photocell on the base of the light.  I decided mine would look and perform best if the photocell was at the bottom of the base pointing down.  This turned out to be a big mistake.  As it would turn out, I didn’t account for the output of the light itself, so the brighter the light got, the more the photocell would try to shut it off.  The result was a dimly flickering bulb that was far from useful. To correct this, I will need to move the photocell into an area that is shaded from the light.

I happen to have a drill press in the woodshop, so that’s where I headed to make my hole.  However, a handheld drill will work just as well.

light6 Installing Dusk to Dawn Photocell in Exterior Lighting to Save PowerDouble check you drill bit size – you only get one shot at this, so don’t make your hole too big.  After all, the beauty of this photocell project is that it will be hardly noticeable once complete.

You may want to have some blocking to help keep the fixture level while you drill.  Start drilling and take your time.  The harder you press the hotter the bit gets and you risk denting your fixture.  Spray a little WD-40 on the bit or use cutting oil if you have it.

Once your hole is drilled, be careful to not cut yourself on the sharp edge.  I used a small file to knock down some of the sharp edges.  This step is not necessary since the edge will not be exposed once the photocell is installed – just be careful.

Remove the retaining nut from the photocell and uncoil the wires.  This will be a lot easier and safer before the photocell is secured in place.   From the inside of the light, slide the threaded shaft of the photocell through the hole you just made and thread the retailing nut back on.  If your photocell has adjustments or wiring diagrams on its housing, be sure that this is facing out so they are accessible.

light13 Installing Dusk to Dawn Photocell in Exterior Lighting to Save PowerPay attention to the wiring instructions on the packaging or the body of the photocell.  Ours indicated that one of the black wires should be connected to the light, and the other to the black wire coming from the wall.  So power would run from the house, into the photocell, then into the light.  The photocell acts as a secondary switch that opens and closes depending on the amount of light.  One nice feature of the photocell that I purchased is that is actually dims – that is, the more light outside, the lower the light output.  Conversely, the darker it is outside, the brighter the light output.  Pretty cool!

Connect the black wires based on the directions that came with your photo cell.

Connect the white wires together making sure to tuck them back into the electrical box.

Connect the green/copper wires together making sure to tuck them back into the electrical box.

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Replace or tighten any mounting brackets that you removed or loosened to remove the light fixture.

light10 Installing Dusk to Dawn Photocell in Exterior Lighting to Save PowerInstall retaining nuts that hold the fixture to the electrical box.

Turn your breaker back on and wait for dark.  Really, that’s all there is too it.  If you are like me and can’t wait, you can block off light to the photocell to see the light turn on.

This was a simple and inexpensive project that anyone with the right tools can do.  Not only is it more convenient because we don’t need to remember to turn it on, it save power each day by matching its output with the sun’s.  I have a hunch I will be adding a few more of these around the house. If you want to purchase the photocell that I’m

using, the sku is 594-135 and can be located in the lighting section of Home Depot. I hope you found this guide useful and are now contemplating adding photocells of your own.

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37 Comments

  1. GBSTC says:

    I am trying to install a Hampton Bay Photocell # 594-135 but am having trouble with the directions because they say to take the "longer" black wire to the black power supply wire and the shorter black wire of the photocell to the black wire from the light fixture. One would think this is an easy instruction but both black wires from the photocell ARE THE SAME EXACT LENGTH. That's the confusing part. Which goes where? On the black photocell itself there is a diagram showing one wire going to "lamp load" and the other wire going to "120V AC". Can anyone please help me distinguish which goes where? Which do I interpret as the short black and which as the long black?
    I'd hate to misconnect the wiring and burn up the photocell before I see if it works or not. The other question I have involves the fact that I have two – each with a photocell to turn on at dusk and off at dawn and each has a switch that controls both lights, one in the front entry and one in the garage. How do I set those switches so that both operate the light fixtures the way they are supposed to. Thanks for any help anyone can provide.

    • sblackb says:

      You can use either wire in either order. Just connect one to the hot wire coming from the electrical box, then the other to the power wire on the light. As for the two different switches, not really sure what you're asking, but it sounds like you are dealing with a 3-way switch. Not sure if you are trying to bypass the photo cell or if it's not working on the second switch.

  2. DanfromEssex says:

    I have power coming from panel that is 4 wire (w,b,r,gnd) but the light that was purchased only has 3 wire ( w,b,gnd)
    and the sensor I bought has 3 wire (w,b,r ).
    Is it possible to make this work ? right now light stays on , I capped off the red wire at the light.

    • sblackb says:

      Sounds to me like you have a three way switch where the red wire is a carrier leg. I'm no electrician, so you may want to get a pro's opinion but is the red wire hot?

  3. Dennis says:

    I have outside lighting that consits of 2 candle type light bulbs in each fixture. The type of dusk to dawn sensor is one that screws into the socket. Problem that I have is I can't get both lights in the fixture to work at the same time.

    • sblackb says:

      Not really a candidate for a thread in photocell. I would try a wire in style like I used and see if that solves your problem. since the photocell you used switched the bulb, you would need one for each of your bulbs. My fear is that they would cast light on each other's photocell and you would get a really annoying flicker.

  4. sharo dubosh says:

    out of the six hampton bay photo sensors i bought, only one worked!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! i give up!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1

  5. Amy says:

    My light only goes on every other night!

    This fixture is on my front porch and it had been working just fine since 2003 — until now. As far as I know it is controlled by a photocell as it always seemed to go on at dusk and off at dawn.

    Then at the end of October, I thought the light had blown but before I could change it, the light was on the next night – but off the following night… And to my surprise, ever since then, it has gone on and off every other day!

    I just don't get it! I don't think there is a timer anywhere, but even if there was, I can't imagine one exists that can be set to go on every other day!

    Any thoughts about what could be going on? (For what it's worth, I've been using a CFL in the fixture for some time now.)

  6. jessman says:

    We have dawn to dusk carriage lights and the sensor doesn't seem to be working now. It has worked for 4 years and we just got back and the lights were on all the time. What could be the cause? We are not sure where the sensors are, but we want to fix it. Can you help?

    • sblackb says:

      Well, it sounds like the same situation that I had when mine failed, but the one difference is you said lights instead of light. If you have more than one light that failed at the same time, I would suggest you have a wall mount photo cell or a timer, not light mounted photo cells like I used. Check around and see if you have any electrical plates that have a pencil eraser size cylinder protruding from the face. My guess is that you have one sensor that controls a circuit, but I'm just guessing based on the info you provided. do you know the type of lights you have?

  7. mack says:

    I have a small windmill that charges three double A batteries to power a small led light (4.5 volts) How could I wire a photocell to this?

  8. wm. chapman says:

    I have a porch light just outside my kitchen door in which I was using one of these power-saving bulbs – you know the type – a little florescent tube wound in a tight spiral. I tried installing a small photocell much like is pictured above – and when I finished and tested – it blew! I got another one, thinking the 1st was bad, tried it and blew it also. I changed to an ordinary incandescent bulb and now it works. Do the power-savers have some kind of inductive kickback that destroys photocells?

  9. martin says:

    where can i buy 12 volt photo cell switches for solar

  10. vince says:

    I am looking for a low voltage photo cell that I can use to control my address light fixture that is mounted over my garage door. Everyone I have found requires mounting in a box. Since this is the front of my house, I would prefer one that I can mount above the address light fixture without a box. Is anyone aware of a lv photocell that can be installed without a box?

  11. Tom says:

    This Hampton Bay sensor is a piece of junk. I installed one, only to have it die when the light bulb blew. I installed another and when that light bulb burned out, it took the second one with it. This problem is not unique to me (http://www.bobvila.com/BBS/Dusk_to_Dawn-Lighting-… Don't waste your time with this POS.

  12. Sam says:

    Should there be 2 photocells on 2 different lights that operate on the same circuit?

  13. abaloneking says:

    I bought a timer that replaces the light switch , that operates three outside light fixtures.All three lights have cfl's. the fixtures came originaly with photocells,so when the photocells stopped working I put the timer in.The cfl's would not work with the photocell but it loves the timer and so do I.I set it once over two years ago. and have not changed a lamp since.The timer cost about thirty bucks at lowes,. You must disconnect the photocell if it is still working in the fixture.

  14. CAP says:

    Hey this was fun to read. I did exactly what you did with our front porch lights back in 06 when we built the house using the exact Hampton Bay replacement photocell and drilling the hold twice because I too put it on the bottom and had the flickering light thing. By moving it to the topiIt worked great for about 2 years then the photocell went out. I installed another one and it lasted exactly 2 more years and now nada. I have to do it again. Luckily it's not hard just a pain in the neck and irritating they can't make something last longer than that. Is there a higher quality replacement photo cell out there? I'd rather pay $25 and have it work than to keep replacing the shoddy hampton bay part.

  15. Slap Happy says:

    I just installed photocells on my outdoor lights and discovered some things that might be good to know. I found the same photocell as the one shown here at Home Depot for about $7.50. The packaging was updated a bit and it now says that they are not compatible with compact fluorescent bulbs. Since that’s all I use, I kept shopping. I eventually found a photocell sold at Ace Hardware (AA-105-BPA) for the same price.

    The advantages of the Ace Hardware photocell are it works with all types of bulbs up to 1800 watts and it has a built-in timer to delay the on/off switching and help eliminate any flicker. (Of course, it still has to be mounted where the light doesn’t shine on it.) The disadvantages are it has a little bigger housing, which might limit where it will fit and it doesn’t include a backing nut, which is required if you want the photocell to protrude out of your fixture as little as possible. These nuts are virtually impossible to buy separately, but I was able to get the same result using some 5/8″ rubber grommets as spacers.

    Another useful tip I discovered when installing my photocells is if one switch controls multiple outdoor lights, those lights are often wired in series. In that case, a photocell can be installed on just the first fixture (closest to the wall switch) and the wires can be connected so that photocell will also control all the other lights after it. Basically, you separate the three black wires behind the first fixture, connect the black wire that runs to the wall switch to the black wire on the photocell. Next, connect the black wire from the light fixture, along with the black wire that runs to the other lights to the red wire on the photocell. Connect all the white wires together as normal.

    I can now finally leave my outside light switch on and the photocells take care of the rest. Now if I can just figure out how to keep all the bugs from building nests inside my nice warm fixtures.

  16. Scott says:

    Thanks for posting this project, I just installed this photo sensor on 2 exterior LED latterns, WORKS GREAT!!! My Home Depot had these sensors for $7 each. cheers!

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  19. Dan says:

    I can not find the photoswitch with the info provided….

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  21. Don Armstrong says:

    Interesting reading here and on BobVila.com concerning the Hampton Bay SKU#594-135 photo cells. I had 2 old fixtures with photo cells that operated prefectly with a single pair of CFLs for 3 years. As part of a renovation, I installed new fixtures with Hampton Bay photo cells. The new fixtures killed thoses old CFLs in less than 1 week. Also killed 2 new CFLs, 1 dimmable CFL and 2 incandescent bulbs before I removed them from the fixtures.

    That’s a lot of light bulbs over just 1 month of operation – now I just have CFLs on 24/7. So much for saving the Planet (and my $$).

    Yes, the cells were properly installed so that they were shaded and did not see the light from the fixture or any other nearby lights – they were aimed into open space. Does anybody know of any small/thin photo sensors available anywhere?

  22. sharon dubosh says:

    about the photocell wiring….what if i have two black wires and two white wires and two grounds coming out of the electrical box????? thank you, respectfully, sharon

  23. Cornelius Weber says:

    I would like to install a Hampton Bay photocell switch SKU 594-135 to control a cluster of 110V light bulbs, but do not know the maximum wattage rating of the device. Please provide this info. Thank you.

  24. Scott says:

    Dean,

    Sorry to hear that you had the same problem I did with locating the sensor. Now that I moved mine however, it has been going strong ever since. As for bulbs, I’m currently using an incandescent bulb simply because I had one on hand. Since the photocell functions like a dimmer (slowly turning the light on and off at dawn and dusk,) you would need to get a fluorescent bulb that is dimmable and those are still pretty expensive.

    I would not suggest halogen due to the extra power they draw. Stick to a low wattage incandescent bulb and see how your sensor works. Remember you are saving a ton of power just by having the light turn on and off as the sun sets and rises. When it burns out in the future, check the prices of dimmable CFLs.

    Hope that helps. Thanks for being a Watthacker.

    Scott

  25. Dean says:

    OK, thank you. I will try to relocate the sensor. My other question is what bulb should go there? Reg incandescent or fluorescent or halogen?

  26. sblackb says:

    Richard,

    I discovered the sensor on one of my many unrelated trips to HD, but I couldn’t locate it on their website either. If you are near a HD, you can find them stocked back by the outdoor lighting fixture section. There was only one photocell to choose from. A word of caution – After googling for an alternative sensor, I discovered several reports of faulty photocells from Hampton Bay. They eventually short and take the bulb out. Once you replace the bulb, the sensor no longer functions as designed. I guess we will see how long ours lasts. I will look for alternatives and post them here.

  27. Richard says:

    This photo cell is just the item I’ve been looking for. I went to HOME DEPOT lighting section and entered the sku # 594-135, but it came up “sorry no matches found”. Would you have any other suggestions as to where I can obtain the photo cell. Thanks

  28. sblackb says:

    Dean,

    You may have made the same mistake I did at first. You need to make sure the photocell is shaded from the light being produced by light fixture. Otherwise, their will be a constant battle between the light and the photocell. Try blocking the sensor with your hand. If the light turns on and stops flickering, placement is the problem. The sensor that I used was for a 120 volt application. Hope that helps.

    Scott

  29. Dean says:

    I installed this wire-in control on a porch resessed can. I can not get any buld to work correctly. most will filcker intently. is ther a specail lamp that needs to be used? i read on another page that this is a replacement switch and needs to be used on a 12V lamp. my lamp is a 110V,

    thanks
    Dean

  30. Tina Russell says:

    I finally decided to write a comment on your blog. I just wanted to say good job. I really enjoy reading your posts.

    Tina Russell

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